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The FAA has been assured by Delta that all SCABS honor their certificate with diligence and integrity. Just like the new slick dick management team, everything above board, trust me. Good people are running this thing, leave us alone, glad our transceivers are being maintained (whew!), we'll show you the books. Pull ur head out FAA and look at what's going on

Submission date ~ 02-5-2012

So you know the guy who bumped jimmy boy! What's my name?

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

You have a Certificate, you are responsible. what an A**

Wrong! Yes I have a drivers license (a&p certificate) and if I don't sign off what they want me to sign off I get fired, BTW They tried that on me at nwa and failed. without a union would They have failed??? Also MR FAA I was good at my job 25 years, qualified on everything also was a taxi instructor. I left the industry in 05 however I will be a very bitter person regarding aviation until the day I die.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Actually the FAA has Certificated Mechanics on staff that maintain the fleet of aircraft they use for nav aid checks.

just saying the guys an idiot.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Follow the leader,
American cuts thousands, so must the other remaining carriers! What an industry.....

www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/03/uk-delta-idUSLNE81201X20120203

The big D has been cutting jobs but the headcount stays practically the same. The senior people are being let go... and replaced with new hires. There have been many mechanics that have left just to return as new hires.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Delta baggage handlers stole thousands from luggage
Delta Executive Code of Ethics;
Do as I say and not as I do.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

I work for the Faa. My job titles is Airway transportation system specialist. I have close sites and remote sites. I personally maintain remote communication sites for Atc with, vhf/uhf radios and microwave communication links. We also maintain the engine generators at these sites. We maintain air conditioning systems that are used for equipment cooling. We maintain approach lighting systems called MALSRs. We maintain lighted nav aids called VASI and PAPI for visual glide slope approach. We maintain everything at our sites from roof leaks to cutting the weeds and grass and snow removal. Many of us are specialized, ILS, VOR, or Radar. We also maintain the heating systems. I spent 20 years at what was once a proud airline, Northwest. I have been with the Faa for about 3 years. Any of you clowns who, think we don't work on anything can simply KISS MY ASS!

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

I believe it is time to give them what they want. I want to see a country without unions. I want to see welfare, social security, unemployment insurance, Medicare, and all pensions made insolvent. I want millions of people starving, competing for the few trivial jobs left. I want to see the world they have created come to full life.
Then, and only then will there be change.

Typical liberal way of thinking....

I want people to have jobs and support themselves so that they don't need unions or government give a ways and we can actually use the tax money to pay down the debt that our corrupt government has accumulated

LOL, I need to check and see who's knife is stuck the farthest into the working man's back. Utopia is only a few tax brackets away!!

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Pull MY head out of the fog ? WTF are you talking about ? The FAA doesn't maintain sh*t on the planes OR at the airports - there are mechanics that do that - employed by the airlines or airports. The FAA is SUPPOSED to regulate, inspect & enforce - NOT turn wrenches.

Remember when NWA started sending our wide bodies overseas for checks ? How they came back with MEL's on them fresh out of a heavy check ? And so much screwed up as well ? Corrosion painted over ? Where was your beloved FAA then ? Hell they even admitted in testimony to congress that they don't monitor overseas repair stations as much as they should ! DUH !! Like that was a surprise to those of us who had to work on the POS NWA was sending over there ! The FAA looks at paperwork. As long as you write it up & sign it off to their specifications they don't look any deeper.

If anyone needs educating I think it's you !

I think the FAA calls it the NAS (National Aerospace System) and yes the have thousands of technical operations (FAA Mechanics) that maintain it.


WTF?

You sir haven't a clue as to what the FAA does in Flight Standards or Technical Operations!

Educate your self before you start running off the key board. The repair stations are complaining/lobbing that the FAA is visiting to much.

I know a couple FAA guys in flight standard. They travel to these places on a regular bases.

You have a Certificate, you are responsible. what an A**



Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

subject ~ faa
message ~
All this talk about the FAA. If you have a certificate, you are responsible for the airworthiness of the aircraft, doesn't matter if you are the Air Carrier or the Mechanic. The FAA is the regulator.
Write it up, follow the manual, it's not that hard of a concept.

And you may be be fired if you write too many. And when you are, you are on your own. The faa will let you hang. And if you don't write-up something that the faa thinks you should of, they will hang you. Either way you lose.

When you applied for your certificate you signed an application stating you would follow the regulations. The regulations say you will document all of the maintenance you perform. Why would you get fired for following the regulations? I'm sure the FAA job is to insure you follow them. Sure glad I left at the strike!


Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

subject ~ faa
message ~
All this talk about the FAA. If you have a certificate, you are responsible for the airworthiness of the aircraft, doesn't matter if you are the Air Carrier or the Mechanic. The FAA is the regulator.
Write it up, follow the manual, it's not that hard of a concept.

And you may be be fired if you write too many. And when you are, you are on your own. The faa will let you hang. And if you don't write-up something that the faa thinks you should of, they will hang you. Either way you lose.


Sounds like a labor problem not an FAA problem. Kind of goes back to what this web sites all about.


GET a UNION!

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

I knew a guy that Kissel threatened to beat up because the guy was about to exercise seniority (bump) on him. Ya got a real winner there Delta.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

I believe it is time to give them what they want. I want to see a country without unions. I want to see welfare, social security, unemployment insurance, Medicare, and all pensions made insolvent. I want millions of people starving, competing for the few trivial jobs left. I want to see the world they have created come to full life.
Then, and only then will there be change.

Typical liberal way of thinking....

I want people to have jobs and support themselves so that they don't need unions or government give a ways and we can actually use the tax money to pay down the debt that our corrupt government has accumulated.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Thinking about scab Kissel this day, and scum like him. Remembering how he stated he had always planned to "go back in" as soon as he and his buddy got a few things done. What a POS! Delta you got what you paid for there. There was a time when no Delta employee would have been on the payroll and wearing an ankle bracelet. Delta, you have sunk as low as many of those in your family, Kissel just being one of them. Two time drunkard yet still a Delta employee. Well on a positive note, spring is right around the corner and biker Kissel will be out and about again. He no doubt will get thirsty. Maybe this will be the year, we can only hope.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Where do you think the transmitters are? How about the radios? Do you have a clue who maintains all the equipment that the airlines and the air traffic controllers use to navigate?

Such big words..Transceiver...

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

All this talk about the FAA. If you have a certificate, you are responsible for the airworthiness of the aircraft, doesn't matter if you are the Air Carrier or the Mechanic. The FAA is the regulator.
Write it up, follow the manual, it's not that hard of a concept.

And you may be be fired if you write too many. And when you are, you are on your own. The faa will let you hang. And if you don't write-up something that the faa thinks you should of, they will hang you. Either way you lose.

Submission date ~ 02-4-2012

Follow the leader,
American cuts thousands, so must the other remaining carriers! What an industry.....

www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/03/uk-delta-idUSLNE81201X20120203

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

what an actor

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

"I guess you don't realize that the FAA does more than just oversight of airlines.

When you maintained the avionics on an aircraft, do you understand that the DME, VOR, LOC, GS, etc..., on an aircraft are all receivers?

Where do you think the transmitters are? How about the radios? Do you have a clue who maintains all the equipment that the airlines and the air traffic controllers use to navigate?

Have you see those lights that flash to show runway centerline (ALSF, MALSR)? What about the radar that shows aircraft position and ident to the air traffic controllers? Transponders?

All of those are maintained by FAA employees.

Pull your head out of the fog, turn off the talk radio, and educate yourself."

Pull MY head out of the fog ? WTF are you talking about ? The FAA doesn't maintain sh*t on the planes OR at the airports - there are mechanics that do that - employed by the airlines or airports. The FAA is SUPPOSED to regulate, inspect & enforce - NOT turn wrenches.

Remember when NWA started sending our wide bodies overseas for checks ? How they came back with MEL's on them fresh out of a heavy check ? And so much screwed up as well ? Corrosion painted over ? Where was your beloved FAA then ? Hell they even admitted in testimony to congress that they don't monitor overseas repair stations as much as they should ! DUH !! Like that was a surprise to those of us who had to work on the POS NWA was sending over there ! The FAA looks at paperwork. As long as you write it up & sign it off to their specifications they don't look any deeper.

If anyone needs educating I think it's you !

You are incorrect in your statement about who maintains various equipment at airports.  FAA employees maintain certain navigational and safety equipment at airports and sites all over the country.  The reason we know this, is because we know of several honorable that do it for the FAA. 

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

Let's not forget that rat face and all the other mgrs with contracts with nwa and all previous merged airlines with nwa will pay what there employment contract states!
Remember dasburg was credited with a lot more years at nwa than his actual time!
Could it be there pension is in with ours? NOT!

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

Not to be picky but if you are trying to show a higher level of intelligence, then you need to learn that a DME is in the transceiver category, not a receiver, just sayin'

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

When you maintained the avionics on an aircraft, do you understand that the DME, VOR, LOC, GS, etc..., on an aircraft are all receivers?

Where do you think the transmitters are? How about the radios? Do you have a clue who maintains all the equipment that the airlines and the air traffic controllers use to navigate?

So you're saying that all aircraft avionics are strictly receivers and the only transmitters are the land based FAA stations? Wow, I'm obviously not as smart as you Mr. FAA field maintenance guy, but I do recall aircraft having radios, ELT's, radio altimeters, and transponders on board which are all TRANSMITTERS.

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

If you really want some good entertainment, ask SCAB Jeff Certo if he's flown his private plane lately. He likes to tell his friends about his flying.

WHAT friends? Everybody I knew (including me) hated that weasel dick S.O.B!

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

Unless there are TWO Matt Nulls - that is NOT him in that picture.........

There are two Matt Nulls. The second was hired off the street just prior to our ending the strike by signing the company contract. He was the threat the company was using to continue to hire all new people off the street unless we ended the strike. There is no picture of him.

As a matter of trivia concerning American Airlines, before our event happened in 2005, STS aviation and others were holding job fairs on American Airlines property for laid off mechanics to replace us, with the TWU blessing, rationalizing that AMFA wasn't a true union and TWU was only concerned about getting jobs for their mechanics.

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

If you really want some good entertainment, ask SCAB Jeff Certo if he's flown his private plane lately. He likes to tell his friends about his flying.

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

All this talk about the FAA. If you have a certificate, you are responsible for the airworthiness of the aircraft, doesn't matter if you are the Air Carrier or the Mechanic. The FAA is the regulator.
Write it up, follow the manual, it's not that hard of a concept.

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

message ~
Anybody who actually thinks the FAA will EVER do the damn job they're supposed to be doing probably believes obama's stimulus will actually get the economy going again ! They're too busy worrying about placards & whether or not you dotted your I's & crossed your T's. They have no clue what's going on out there unless you self disclose ! And when you DO get one who has a clue - they beat the guy to death & fire him for some BS reason !! As long as the FAA's mission is to PROMOTE air travel AND enforce safety - they're doomed. You can't serve two masters.

I guess you don't realize that the FAA does more than just oversight of airlines.

When you maintained the avionics on an aircraft, do you understand that the DME, VOR, LOC, GS, etc..., on an aircraft are all receivers?

Where do you think the transmitters are? How about the radios? Do you have a clue who maintains all the equipment that the airlines and the air traffic controllers use to navigate?

Have you see those lights that flash to show runway centerline (ALSF, MALSR)? What about the radar that shows aircraft position and ident to the air traffic controllers? Transponders?

All of those are maintained by FAA employees.

Pull your head out of the fog, turn off the talk radio, and educate yourself.

LOL, Maintaining system are easily monitored, if these systems aren't working everybody quickly becomes aware of it. It is just like maintaining an aircraft. If all systems work people do not realize what happens everyday to keep it flying.

The ones who's work (or lack of) is not visible, the basis for these comments, are the ones people are talking about.

This is not the part of in discussion.. (enforcement, investigation, inspections etc.) LOL

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

Yup, that's him. Did they keep Matt Nulls couch??

Matt was our AMFA Local #5 elected official.

U go girl.


Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

I just read the proposed contracts. As usual the lower you are on the totem pole the worse off you are.

Expect a sale/merger after they emerge from Chapter 11. AA is history. I would hate to be stuck in some podunk town with a mortgage. It's not going to be pretty.

Submission date ~ 02-3-2012

subject ~ FAA
message ~
Anybody who actually thinks the FAA will EVER do the damn job they're supposed to be doing probably believes obama's stimulus will actually get the economy going again ! They're too busy worrying about placards & whether or not you dotted your I's & crossed your T's. They have no clue what's going on out there unless you self disclose ! And when you DO get one who has a clue - they beat the guy to death & fire him for some BS reason !! As long as the FAA's mission is to PROMOTE air travel AND enforce safety - they're doomed. You can't serve two masters.

I guess you don't realize that the FAA does more than just oversight of airlines.

When you maintained the avionics on an aircraft, do you understand that the DME, VOR, LOC, GS, etc..., on an aircraft are all receivers?

Where do you think the transmitters are? How about the radios? Do you have a clue who maintains all the equipment that the airlines and the air traffic controllers use to navigate?

Have you see those lights that flash to show runway centerline (ALSF, MALSR)? What about the radar that shows aircraft position and ident to the air traffic controllers? Transponders?

All of those are maintained by FAA employees.

Pull your head out of the fog, turn off the talk radio, and educate yourself.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

What is the FAA suppose to be doing?

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

"Hopefully no former NWA honorable get caught in that if they went to AA after NWA. "


I was at AA after our strike in 07 for about 4 weeks. The environment was very toxic due the fact that the employee's had saved over $230 million in fuel savings and the senior management team decided to give themselves $230 million in bonuses. I tried to warn them that this was the wrong direction but there was nothing I could do for them so I left and went to a safe place. Sorry but there is nothing more I can do to change the direction this country is headed. In fact I stopped trying and now have changed my entire philosophy.
I believe it is time to give them what they want. I want to see a country without unions. I want to see welfare, social security, unemployment insurance, Medicare, and all pensions made insolvent. I want millions of people starving, competing for the few trivial jobs left. I want to see the world they have created come to full life.
Then, and only then will there be change.


Lucifer


Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

American Airlines plans to cut 13,000 jobs
message ~
And the saga continues the downward spiral of the middle class, and the downward spiral of aircraft maintenance jobs because a big part of the 13,000 is going to be maintenance. Hopefully no former NWA honorable get caught in that if they went to AA after NWA.


Man ain't that the truth! Rich getting filthy rich, the classes dividing more and more yet our young think they don't need a union these days. Of course the filthy motherf**kers that turned on us felt the same way and many were old farts. Hell the number one seniority, Leroy Wiedell became a scab with like 1957 seniority. Go figure that creep out. I like to give credit where credit is due, and I want to make sure the cocks***ers that sold us out get credit for contributing greatly to destroying the middle class in this country. It emboldened pricks like king Dick and Steenland. (With his face I wouldn't change places for all the money in the world) They surely hurt aviation, but what the f**k do they care. God, do I hate them, scabs that is.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

Heard on the radio this morning on the way home. Question being asked. One guy asked a question is it a big deal to out source maint. The other guy said no it's not the only problem is that the Faa is not there to over see the maint I almost ran off the road when I heard his response they don't over see maint. here. What about the jobs that's being lost. Somehow a lot has happened in this country since 9/11.. Then we were all one everyone was saying we all need to work together to make a better USA somehow that has been lost over the last 11 years sad but true.. Just a thought not a sermon.. Best wishes to all the honorable.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

And the saga continues the downward spiral of the middle class, and the downward spiral of aircraft maintenance jobs because a big part of the 13,000 is going to be maintenance. Hopefully no former NWA honorable get caught in that if they went to AA after NWA.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

Well, this probably won't happen.
The American Unions and employees would have to wake up. They would have to put their differences aside. Act like Unions and go to bankruptcy court United with their own plan to save the company. They could team up with the Pension board to getting the US government with them. They will need a viable Business plan showing deep cuts. They can show that they would be willing to give these cuts in order to preserve their company. And most importantly they can stipulate that they will give the cuts with one condition.
That, they will work with any management team in place but the one that is there now.
It’s just a dream.

Won't happen.  The pilots, especially, won't cooperate with any other union, they have their pensions to look after in all of this.  Just watch who ends up on the creditors committee.  The sole purpose of members of the creditors committee, is to make sure this company survives out of bankruptcy. 


Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

faa is a political agency. politics to keep your job. enforcement can NOT offend the politically connected. enough said? sad but true.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

Ok. Then there ARE two of them. Because the one I know doesn't look ANYTHING like that guy. Thanks.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

The picture of Null is correct. I will never forget this clown. My first night in DTW, Oct 86, this clown kicked myself and another employee out of a van because we were brown book employees. Our merger was pretty ugly. When we hit the bricks in 05, I think he walked for 2 days. Then he wound up in a nut ward for about a week. After that he showed up at the strike tent one more time and then he scabbed. I knew this idiot for 19 years, of my 20, at the red ass. The picture is Matt Null, make no mistake about it.

Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

Unless there are TWO Matt Nulls - that is NOT him in that picture

This is a view rarely seen, the front side of his head when not kneeling. Your probably used to seeing the back side. But that's our DTW Booger eating SCAB.

Did they save the couch ??


Submission date ~ 02-2-2012

After reading the pension report I see a new twist, that I have not seen before. Look on pg 4. Instead of defaulting to the pbgc delta may select to purchase a annuity or give you a lump sum payment. Not sure in today's volatile market if that will be good for us.

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

I quit Pan Am just before they went belly up in 1984 joined NWA in 84 when I was 47, 8 years later I put in for early retirement at 55% reduction. To date the PBGC has not missed a payment. I retired from NWA in 2001.

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

"So you folks had Booger boyz too? DTW had Matt Null, DTW's own "Booger boy"
He had a collector Couch too? Did he save it? "Add hot water for Soup",,,Brr

He was DTW's AMFA Local #5 's Union Rep and Elected Political Rep. Matt Null, Now He's just a Booger SCAB.
His pic will be coming up next week in the N's, unless the WebBoss would like to post a SCAB preview???. Right below here ???

Matt Null........DTW's Booger Scab"

Unless there are TWO Matt Nulls - that is NOT him in that picture...........

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

subject ~ pension
message ~

Anyone know haw bad we get beat up if and when the pbgc takes over? Any United people on this site?


Maximum Monthly Guarantee Tables
Examples of the maximum guarantee are shown in the tables below. Each table applies to a given calendar year. The maximum guarantee is set by law and it is updated each calendar year. The maximum guarantee applicable to a plan is fixed as of that plan's termination date except where termination occurs during a plan sponsor's bankruptcy and the sponsor entered bankruptcy on or after September 16, 2006, in which case the maximum guarantee is fixed as of the date the sponsor entered bankruptcy.
Your maximum guaranteed amount is based, in part, on your age on the plan termination date (or the date the sponsor entered bankruptcy, if applicable) or, if you were not in pay status on that date, the date you begin receiving benefits from PBGC. Your maximum guaranteed amount also will reflect the age of your designated beneficiary if your benefit provides payments to a survivor. The age reduction does not apply for certain disabled participants (see Guarantees for Disabled Participants). The tables show the maximum guarantee, by age, for a participant receiving a straight-life annuity (one with no survivor benefits) and for one who receives a joint and 50% survivor annuity. In calculating the joint and 50% survivor amounts, the participant and survivor were assumed to be the same age. (For more information, see the PBGC news release PBGC Announces Maximum Insurance Benefit for 2010.)

PBGC Maximum Monthly Guarantees for Plans Terminating in 2005
Age
2005 Straight-Life Annuity
2005 Joint and 50% Survivor Annuity
65
$3,801.14
$3,421.03
64
$3,535.06
$3,181.56
63
$3,268.98
$2,942.09
62
$3,002.90
$2,702.61
61
$2,736.82
$2,463.14
60
$2,470.74
$2,223.67
59
$2,318.70
$2,086.83
58
$2,166.65
$1,949.99
57
$2,014.60
$1,813.15
56
$1,862.56
$1,676.30
55
$1,710.51
$1,539.46
54
$1,634.49
$1,471.04
53
$1,558.47
$1,402.62
52
$1,482.44
$1,334.20
51
$1,406.42
$1,265.78
50
$1,330.40
$1,197.36
49
$1,254.38
$1,128.94
48
$1,178.35
$1,060.52
47
$1,102.33
$992.10
46
$1,026.31
$923.68
45
$950.29
$855.26
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Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

Anybody know if this POS still works for the FAA in Minneapolis?

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

I'm only 47 and had 17 years with NWA. So is it fair to say that I cannot count on my pension? If so, will the PBGC steps in?

Nothing is certain in our current political climate.  We hope that everyone that earned a pension will receive that pension. 

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

Matt Null........DTW's Booger Scab

Don't forget he is also known as the Albino Aryan Nudist. He'd like to strip completely naked in the locker room, then hold a conversation with any poor sap that was caught in there with him. THIS SCAB IS F#*KING WEIRD!


Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

I am drawing a pension from the PBGC Eastern Airlines Mechanics. I was able to start drawing at age 62 without a penalty. Normally the age would have been 65 but the PBGC thru the bankruptcy court made EAL fully fund the plan hence able to retire with full benefits at age 62 as our contract specified. My wife will receive 50% of my retirement upon my demise. This reduces what I receive by about 18%.. The PBGC has a web site that will probably answer most questions of the plan

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

I know several UAL retirees and they are ok with PBGC. It's higher pensions such as pilots that get screwed. I have breakfast with several every Thursday and will learn more. Retired NWA 2004 DTW

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

Anybody who actually thinks the FAA will EVER do the damn job they're supposed to be doing probably believes obama's stimulus will actually get the economy going again ! They're too busy worrying about placards & whether or not you dotted your I's & crossed your T's. They have no clue what's going on out there unless you self disclose ! And when you DO get one who has a clue - they beat the guy to death & fire him for some BS reason !! As long as the FAA's mission is to PROMOTE air travel AND enforce safety - they're doomed. You can't serve two masters.

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

So you folks had Booger boyz too? DTW had Matt Null, DTW's own "Booger boy"
He had a collector Couch too? Did he save it? "Add hot water for Soup",,,Brr

He was DTW's AMFA Local #5 's Union Rep and Elected Political Rep. Matt Null, Now He's just a Booger SCAB.
His pic will be coming up next week in the N's, unless the WebBoss would like to post a SCAB preview???. Right below here ???

Matt Null........DTW's Booger Scab

Submission date ~ 02-1-2012

Anyone know haw bad we get beat up if and when the pbgc takes over? Any United people on this site?

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Maybe it's time to see if a class action suit is possible!

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

To the Honorable that work at the FAA, it is a shame your the minority.

You probably know of Lying Brian from DTW. Sorry, most guys I knew who went to the FAA just wanted the 40 hours/week and out. In other words skaters.

Secondly, the investigations are not thorough, whatever the airline provides is good enough.

They may have been good at one time but when you hire by a point systems and not skill, you get what you have... I would love to see a more enforcing FAA.

www.fairmontsentinel.com/page/content.detail/id/517737/FAA-needs-to-be-honest--not-cover-up-problems.html

www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=43891

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Hey, The Airline Industry doesn't need ,"King Dick" Anderson swallowing up another UNIONIZED Airline. He already has enough CROSSOVER/REPLACEMENT SCABS at Delta working hard for ,"DICK" swallowing each and every day ! (EXCEPT for a FEW HONORABLE 444!) The more union airlines King Dick swallows the lower wages drop at the remaining Unionized airlines Southwest and American!

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

I am glad some honorable gained employment. The FAA is a joke however and you know it. It's almost as bad as going to work for nwa management as far as I am concerned.


Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

I know UAL guys sometimes visit this site or maybe some exnwa honorable know techs who retired from UAL. I'd like to hear from them about how things went after the gov't took over theirs. What we have vested in the NW plan and like the questions a previous poster posed, does not give us a good feeling right now on how DAL is handling the pension plan.

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Everyone get their pension letter from delta? Looks like we will run out of money in a few years, I thought they would actually do right by some of us! Here is what I wrote to them.

Retirement Benefits
Delta Service Center
Plan 16
EIN 58-0218548 January 31, 2012


Plan Administrator,

In reference to the above plan number. I was reviewing the Annual Funding Notice .
I have a few question that I would like answered thoroughly.

1. Will Delta ever start funding the Pension plan that they have taken over from Northwest Airlines?

2.Will the Pension fund ever be un-frozen?

3.The plan seems to be reducing at short of a billion a year. What is the projection for when the plan will run out of money?

4. If and when it runs out of money what happens?

5. There seems to be more than a few references to the PBGC in this Funding notice, are we (the retires) are getting prepped to have the fund taken over by the PBGC?

6. Who is doing the investing of this fund? Because it does not seem to be making anything.
Or is Delta just trying to rid itself of this stone in it’s shoe?

Let us know if you ever get a reply from them.  We would be interested in their answers.

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Your hatred of the FAA is evident. There are many of the Honorable out there who collect a paycheck from the FAA. I assure you that they are some of the most ethical, honorable people you would ever meet.

When I hear of the faa backing a mechanic or crew member when they create a write-up, maybe I'll change my mind. The pilot was fired for having too many write-ups, so were was the faa in supporting him? Remember the faa sure likes to threaten people, if they think your over looked something.

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Hey just Google "Delta US Airways DS....don't even need to add "merger" there are dozens of articles out there, try the WSJ. they write about it also. After all these years, your hoping Dick has gone religion!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You "toids" crack me up!!!!

Oh I know there's talk - but it's just that so far. Must be a slow news period. Or they're trying to defect the attention from other stuff. I don't believe sh*t till it happens. Been lied to too much I guess. getting cynical in my old age !

Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Hey just Google "Delta US Airways DS....don't even need to add "merger" there are dozens of articles out there, try the WSJ. they write about it also. After all these years, your hoping Dick has gone religion!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You "toids" crack me up!!!!


Submission date ~ 01-31-2012

Scabs,,,, you pricks sure turned your cowardice into a rout back in 2005. I know I know I know you had this or that reason, but in a war, and in a much less sense it was a war, you can't cut and run to join the other side just because they are winning. But you pricks sure as hell did run and switch sides, just like a traitor, a collaborator. Good men and women trusted you, laid their career on the line, stayed out and Honorable because that is what a man is supposed to do. How you can live with yourself is beyond me. I guess one reason is that you feel better in the company of the other rats that became scabs with you. Good Honorable men lost their jobs because mothers like YOU didn't have what it took to hold your water, much less your word.

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

It is said that Romnney made his millions by getting into companies, signing them up with a bunch of debt, siphoning off a bunch money, then closing and getting rid of employees. Almost sounds like the Chechi gang that ruined nw. Probably the same time period.

Watch it, this is very close to political BS on this board. 

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

subject ~ Fine AIR21
message ~
So where is the faa in all this. Shows just whose side the faa is on. ANYONE being paid by the faa should be ashamed.


FAA- look for the tombstones, then action is taken. AIR21 is up to the individual to prove the big airlines are wrong. You won't see many of the big airlines in this bucket, they have everyone paid off.


Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

"Reported that delta air is looking at a bid for us airways group! Go big dick."

You guys crack me up. Reminds me of my old maiden aunts - they'd hear something - 99.9999% of the time TOTAL BS & make a federal case out of it. First Delta is buying AA, now USAirways - who's next ? United ? Southwest ? Jet Blue ? Maybe Air France ? LMBO !! Thanks for the laugh !

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

subject ~ Fine AIR21
message ~
So where is the faa in all this. Shows just whose side the faa is on. ANYONE being paid by the faa should be ashamed.


That has nothing to do with the FAA.

It was AirTran that fired the pilot and it was the Dept of Labor that ordered AirTran to reinstate him. They found they had violated whistleblower protection law.

Your hatred of the FAA is evident. There are many of the Honorable out there who collect a paycheck from the FAA. I assure you that they are some of the most ethical, honorable people you would ever meet.

Not the individuals in the FAA, just the organization. 

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

He was known for being a rat, company snitch long before our strike. It surprised many of us that he wasn't a first or at least a 2nd day scab crossover.

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

Reported that delta air is looking at a bid for us airways group! Go big dick.

Gee, wonder who will help finance such a thing? 

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

NWA Pension Plan for Contract Employees underfunded by 1,858,370,538 as of September 30, 2011. I think the writing is on the wall here.

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

Guy Mueller, 1st day scab. Proof that NWA took anything "back in" that had a heartbeat, not necessarily brain waves but a heartbeat.

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012

Guy Mueller 6-19-2002 Monroe County
<< More information >>
Personal Information

Guy Phillip Mueller Age: 43 Years Old Sex: M

Birth Date: 4-16-1959 Race: W

City: N MIAMI BCH, FL

Occupation: MAINTENANCE

Arrest Information Arrest Date: 6-19-2002

Arrested By: T14 - MCSO\SPECIAL OPS - TRAFFIC

Arrest Location: SR5 OCEAN DR MM92 TAVERNIER, Monroe, FL

Charges Charge 1

STATUTE: 316.193.
CHARGE: TRAFFIC OFFENSE - DUI AND DAMAGE PROPERTY

Charge 2

STATUTE: 316.193.
CHARGE: TRAFFIC OFFENSE - DUI AND DAMAGE PROPERTY

Charge 3

STATUTE: 316.193.1A
CHARGE: TRAFFIC OFFENSE DUI - DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE

Charge 4

STATUTE: 316.1935.
CHARGE: OBSTRUCT POLICE -HIGH SPD FLEE/ELUDING LE OFFC LIGHTS/SIRENS ACTIVATED

Charge 5

STATUTE: 316.1935.
CHARGE: OBSTRUCT POLICE -HIGH SPD FLEE/ELUDING LE OFFC LIGHTS/SIRENS ACTIVATED

Charge 6

STATUTE: 316.1935.
CHARGE: OBSTRUCT POLICE -HIGH SPD FLEE/ELUDING LE OFFC LIGHTS/SIRENS ACTIVATED

Charge 7

STATUTE: 322.34.1a
CHARGE: NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL -DRIVE WHILE LICENSE SUSPENDED FIRST CONVICTION

Charge 8

STATUTE: 843.02.
CHARGE: RESIST OFFICER - OBSTRUCT WO VIOLENCE

Submission date ~ 01-30-2012